tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post752392795496964399..comments2024-01-02T02:54:35.793-08:00Comments on Humane Observer: Elyse Gardner: BROKEN ARROW: PENULTIMATE TOUR? FOALS, STALLIONS: BLM ANSWERSHumane Observerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15822411347516086748noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-5069209786239277752010-08-19T12:59:29.439-07:002010-08-19T12:59:29.439-07:00My sister was one of the observers at twin peaks p...My sister was one of the observers at twin peaks past week...She lives not far from Reno..She will be investigating horse auction in Reno this week..August 2010 and taking pics...She said that the brother of the helicopter guy really felt it was very normal rounding them up...I guess for the million plus they pay these people..Took it easy rounding them up...Remains me of water spilling through our fingers...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-8078305777793911932010-07-05T20:56:25.210-07:002010-07-05T20:56:25.210-07:00I posted a link to this blog on my blog. I posted ...I posted a link to this blog on my blog. I posted the story. I also posted the story on Opednews.com<br /><br />Let me know if I can help more.<br /><br />-Steven G. EricksonThe Stark Raving Vikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00741708361745934731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-89901466006002852032010-06-11T18:58:00.038-07:002010-06-11T18:58:00.038-07:00Elyse, I have sent letters and signed petitions ga...Elyse, I have sent letters and signed petitions galore. WHAT can I do to help? There must be a way to get folks organized into a power that must be heard. Please help us help the horses. Is there any way to stop the June 14th round up?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03698739012690306314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-76091314162772580902010-06-08T04:59:57.650-07:002010-06-08T04:59:57.650-07:00Looking at the pictures of foals with encrusted no...Looking at the pictures of foals with encrusted noses and the highly infectious disease Strangles comes to my mind. Those foals are in peril in my opinion.Barbara Steelehttp://www.allowaycreekgardens.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-66623615671421590512010-06-07T18:19:11.318-07:002010-06-07T18:19:11.318-07:00Elyse,
I've been "out of the loop" f...Elyse,<br />I've been "out of the loop" for the past few weeks trying to accomplish too many tasks at once (I know, big surprise LOL). <br />Why is this mare being referred to as a "Kiger" mare? <br />T.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11569507012253011323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-50006373656690791312010-06-07T08:18:28.795-07:002010-06-07T08:18:28.795-07:00can someone at this last viewing do a head count o...can someone at this last viewing do a head count of foals and a complete pictorial of all mares with foals..to determine at some point how many foals become deceased if no observers are allowed back in..I have a very bad feeling about what is to happen to the foals in the upcoming weeks..Can we put pressure on the humane society to bring a vet in who is a "breeding farm" and foal experienced..to view these babies..normally it is the personell on a breeding farm whos walkthroughs determine and catch problems with foals not the vets..vets are called in when a problem is discovered to treat..they generally have limited hands on experience in catching the problems at the early stages which is the most critical to being able to save the foals.sandra longleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278611415026530111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-1657856344406449572010-06-07T08:09:52.667-07:002010-06-07T08:09:52.667-07:00Do we have 'anyone organising to go to the twi...Do we have 'anyone organising to go to the twin peaks roundup..to cover for those going to Denver..can we get some information on line as to where when and organise a group? I can't make it to denver but could make it from oregon to this roundup.sandra longleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278611415026530111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-84276352435281681382010-06-07T08:06:43.503-07:002010-06-07T08:06:43.503-07:00I as well as other breeders thought from the get g...I as well as other breeders thought from the get go that the buckskin mare was not the mother of sorro..most of us who have groups of mares have had this happen with a mare stealing a foal in a group..she can be a dry mare a mare with a foal already or a mare who has herself lost a foal..it is not that uncommon..the buckskin mare did not look like she had recently given birth..and we breeders all agreed on that fact..The thing is-that mare should have been removed from the rest of the foaling mares-immediately upon putting sorro down whether or not they recognised she was not the mother to him..leaving her in that pen..or any other mare who is not ready to give birth is just asking for trouble..she is a very big dominant mare..I have passed the word along asking her to be removed immediately.sandra longleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16278611415026530111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-62454272278350715822010-06-06T21:45:43.546-07:002010-06-06T21:45:43.546-07:00Elyse, I was a new observer at the Broken Arrow C...Elyse, I was a new observer at the Broken Arrow Complex this day. It made me sad to see all the horses in crowded situations. It seemed to me that the hospital pens should be used for the <br />sick and injured and not left empty. I am happy to hear the buckskin foal with the respiratory distress was better the next day. Too bad the other colt died. I saw several foals in that pen that had snotty noses. They were not as bad as the one that died. For the number of horses at that facility, I hope the illness does not spread to other pens.<br /><br />I come from a ranching back ground and have lived in Nevada all my life. I have seen both sides to the wild horses. I have ridden the range. I have worked fighting wild land fires. I am hunter and friends with people who hunt wildlife and hike the Nevada lands. I have built some of the fences that dot the range land when I worked for the Forest Service. I have been in love with the wild horses since I was five years old and I was told how the roundups were conducted prior to 1971.<br /><br />At the public tour on June 3rd, 2010 I had to see for myself what was going on at the Broken Arrow Facility.<br />I was actually very satisfied with the overall set up of the facility. I do believe they have too many horses in some of the pens. I do believe a second Veterinarian would be beneficial. As long as the pen's populations remain where they are. This would provide better care for the sick and the injured. I did not see where another set of eyes would hurt. If Broken Arrow is for the short term then two veterinarians should be used until the population gets smaller and the horses are sent out to adoptions or long term care facilities.<br /><br />I think the closing of the facilities to the Public is not an option. If a private individual contracts with the government to have these horses on their property, they should also know they will have the owners of the horses coming to visit. The American people are the owners of these horses. There fore if the Private contractor does not want the public on their lands they do not need to be doing business with the BLM to make money on their private lands. Part of the contract with the private land owner and the BLM should have provisions for the public to visit the horses.<br /><br />I want to express to you that I was impressed with your ability to address the issues with Dean without losing your emotions in an emotionally charged issue of the wild horses welfare. You were very professional in your questions and points of record. I enjoyed talking to you throughout the tour. <br /><br />I hope to see you on June 10th for what I hope is not the last public tour of the Broken Arrow complex in Fallon.<br />Thank you. BeckyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02899158954834773705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-32555682184833756802010-06-06T14:21:11.232-07:002010-06-06T14:21:11.232-07:00Thanks for all your work, Elyse. I do hope that mo...Thanks for all your work, Elyse. I do hope that more consideration will be made and foals that are ill will be taken apart with their mothers and given more medical attention. The heat will make infections spread. <br /><br />The closing of the public tours is a mistake for all concerned. The ability to communicate has been strengthening and this is just a further set back to stop the public from discovering the problems BLM should be finding first. If BLM wants better public relations it will never get it without more transparency. marAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5618238585190945948.post-63473195144141821852010-06-06T12:01:38.037-07:002010-06-06T12:01:38.037-07:00Too bad Rusty did not get treatment until it was t...Too bad Rusty did not get treatment until it was too late. If the vet is making his rounds every morning, he obviously is not able to spot and treat all ailing horses and foals. When will they admit one vet is not adequate? We pay the vet $50,000 a year. We pay Cook and Cattoor mob families $2.7 million a year. Can we please hire another vet or 2? We can deduct from Sue and Dave Cattoor's paycheck. Why the obstinance on this easily solved issue? They also need to have staffers be extremely vigilant for issues such as the Kiger mare trying to steal another foal. Why do the visitors always have to point out what is going on? All the more reason to keep the doors open and open them wider. And are they done processing horses? I thought they had to still geld all the stallions.<br /><br /> Also, I do believe closing the facility to the public just because it is on private land is most likely illegal. But the BLM has been using the "private" land angle for decades now. <br /><br />Thank you for this update.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00651775057578152338noreply@blogger.com